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[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202542

Well shoot, I’m sorry I came across as frustrated. I really am not and I’m sorry I was lecturing. I do want to help and explain not just tell.

For the record, I don’t think you pasted into the visual editor but your screenshot and what I thought you were saying your issue was showed that tab so I wanted to be clear and explain that it wouldn’t look correct if you pasted into the text tab and then clicked on visual. The visual tab won’t look like the front end when using the shortcodes. And it’s best to stay in the text tab to preserve the code from being interpreted.

So my issue is that I don’t understand what the problem is that you are encountering.

When I clicked the link you posted I saw what Kevin did. A working grid with 4 columns. I did not see a problem with the grid on that page. The issue I saw was your screenshot of the visual editor where everything was a mess and it always would be like that in the visual editor. So I was trying to explain that.

Based on your new post. It sounds like you are basing off the visual editor tab and you want that to be the look you get on the front end. Is that correct?

In essence, you want a grid with four columns and then another column to the right of that grid with text?

How would you like this to look on mobile? Do you want that text on the right to be above the images or below?

I’m sorry this has not been smooth.

Also, can you send me a screen shot of what you are seeing on the front end just so I am clear? Thanks!

[Dave]

Dave

#202540

Thanks to working in a remote text editor, I was able to restore that page to the same condition it was just after I started. The page is linked here. Those two lines of text immediately to the right of the top row of images (by 212 Pooh’s Honey Jar) belong at the far bottom. This screenshot shows what the visual editor looks like. Finally, this screenshot shows what the WP text editor looks like at the position I intended for that text to go. The gap near the bottom on the front end is still there.

[Dave]

Dave

#202539

I’ve watched a couple of hours of videos on Elementor. It looks like it does much of what I bought your theme to do. It appears to be designed for creating new pages. No video I watched even suggested it could be used for solving a problem with existing pages.

Ben; I pasted nothing in the visual editor. When I press update in the WP text editor for the page where I did 100% of the work, it opens back to the visual editor and all the stuff you keep insisting I pasted there. I did not. Insisting that I did is making us both frustrated. I really feel like you aren’t hearing me. The frustration in your tone implies you don’t think I’m hearing you. I’m 60 years old. It’s been a long time since anyone’s lectured me.

I just need to know, please, how to solve the problem that I’m encountering with your theme. Moving forward doesn’t mean starting over again from my perspective. I feel like an example like you gave me yesterday in this same thread would solve this issue like it did that one.

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202536

Let me see if I can better explain. You shouldn’t ever paste into the visual editor tab because WordPress will interpret that and output what it thinks you want. This can be ok if your wanting WordPress to add inline styling from a text document like word (but even then it’s not very good). If you are pasting any kind of code or shortcode into the visual tab it will break the output.

So the visual editor tab tries to interpret what you want. If your page is simple no code and easy then this is great but if your page is complex and has code this is bad.

Even if you paste into the text tab then click on the visual editor tab that instructs WordPress to interpret the page content and output it’s “visual” representation which again breaks when you’re dealing with a complex page that has code.

So while you are working on this page, if you want to continue to build the grid with all these shortcodes then you will need to stay on the text tab and not switch, not even to look at it as it will not work and will interpret then break the code as you switch back and forth.

Let me know if that helps?

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202535

Hey,
Sorry I might not be totally understanding things. But I really want to make this clear. While on that page you should never be looking that the visual editor tab. Doesn’t matter where you are editing the content. You should never be on that tab else it will create issues. Does that clarify what I am trying to tell you?

Ben

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202531

I suggest you work with a pagebuilder: https://www.kadencewp.com/recommended-page-builders-for-wordpress/

It would take all the complication out of it and keep things really easy to update and change in the future.

In terms of your page. This screen shot looks like you are on the “visual” tab of the editor: https://gyazo.com/1da3e6e1722db91931fa831069af0929

I’m trying to say that you should not work in the visual editor tab and also have a layout like this it would get really messy. You would need to stay in the text tab if you are going to use shortcodes like this else it will be very hard to see where things are because your images are floating and are not clearing to the next line.

Does that make sense? Your visual editor tab will not work correctly while you use shortcode. It’s not designed to by WordPress.

The new Gutenberg editor that comes out with WordPress 5.0 will make this easier and would make it so you don’t need a page builder but it’s still in production. You can see it here: http://demo.kadencethemes.com/kadence-blocks/

Ben

[Dave]

Dave

#202530

Thank you for looking at that link I posted a couple of posts back.

I understand that it looks like I did that in the visual editor but I didn’t.

This is what I did do. I copied everything from the text WP editor in a text document (Notepad ++) where I did my editing so that I could

a) change all instances of [span4] to [span3] efficiently and
b) easily get back to where I was if what I was doing didn’t work.

When I was finished editing that remote text document, I copied it’s contents to my clipboard, and pasted back in the WP text editor. To tell you the truth, I didn’t even realize until the last few post exchanges with Kevin that [span3] is a shortcode. I recognized it as code, and I have a basic understanding that something opened needs to be closed as in [span3] needs to be followed by [/span3].

When an employee (my son is the only employee who has administrative rights) built that page, he used the visual editor, posting images and captions one after another after another. In effect, what had been working fairly well, was essentially like word wrapping. The problem I encountered this morning came when I wanted to add the two new sections and found I couldn’t do that in the visual editor. I turned to the text tab, added the new sections at the bottom. I found that wasn’t working and the screenshot of where I was with it before Kevin’s help has also already been posted to this thread.

I don’t know how to answer your last question in part because I have little experience with shortcodes, and also because I don’t know what a page builder is. I’m hoping that maybe, in light of this information, you can tell me better how to move forward. I believe I followed the example you gave me earlier in this same thread.

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202524

Hey Dave,
You can’t paste shortcodes into the visual editor. You must paste into the text tab if you are going to use shortcodes. Shortcodes do not give you a good visual representation to edit with. For a large grid-like you are doing, I would strongly recommend not using shortcodes and using a page builder.

Can you ask why you are choosing to do this through shortcodes vs using a page builder?

[nedra.rezinas]

nedra.rezinas

#202521

No, I just don’t want the animation that happens when the page switches from three columns to two, or from two to one.

[Max]

Max

#202517

Thank you. There are two different shortcodes here, one is the Testimonial Post shortcode, which is on the shortcodes page you pointed me to. The other is the Testimonial Carousel shortcode, which you indicated above. The latter is not on the shortcodes page – you may want to add it to the list of carousel types in the docs there.

I have tried both now, and they both are working. The only problem is that with the Carousel, it takes a long time to load, and before it fully loads, it looks like a long narrow column of type, which is what I was talking about above.

After looking at both of these, I prefer the Post version, probably even if the Carousel loaded quickly. So, I’m good for now and appreciate your help!

[Kevin]

Kevin

#202508

Did you clear your cache after making the change? Unless I’m misunderstanding your goals, this page is showing correctly now:
http://meadowcroft-dyeworks.com/crayon-box/

Sorry, I’m not sure I could explain more simply. There isn’t much to it. The shortcodes are initially selected with the “Virtue Shortcodes” button at the top of the editor. Then it’s a matter of selecting the amount of columns, and finally adding your content to the columns.

If you have any specific questions I’m happy to answer them, but it looks to me like you got it! 🙂

-Kevin

[ross]

ross

#202500

Hi,
Is there anyway I can disable having to select a certain variation option for some of my products?
For example, on this page : *Login to see link

The “size” option only refers to which size bed you want. There is no need to select a size for the dresser, etc. Is there any plugin you recommend that can help only use a second variation option on selected products or is there another setting this theme has?

Thank you!

[ross]

ross

#202500

Hi,
Is there anyway I can disable having to select a certain variation option for some of my products?
For example, on this page : *Login to see link

The “size” option only refers to which size bed you want. There is no need to select a size for the dresser, etc. Is there any plugin you recommend that can help only use a second variation option on selected products or is there another setting this theme has?

Thank you!

[nedra.rezinas]

nedra.rezinas

#202493

Hi. I have the “enable animation in” option turned off, but I notice that if I resize my browser window (make it wider or narrower) the boxes on the Staff page still animate as they re-size and shuffle around. Is there a way to turn this effect off?

[nedra.rezinas]

nedra.rezinas

#202493

Hi. I have the “enable animation in” option turned off, but I notice that if I resize my browser window (make it wider or narrower) the boxes on the Staff page still animate as they re-size and shuffle around. Is there a way to turn this effect off?

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202491

Hey,
Theme options > header and footer scripts (if you don’t see this enabled in the theme options > theme extensions ). That would let you add scripts into the head section but not on a page by page edit, anything you add will apply to all pages.

You can install other plugins that would let you add scripts on a page by page basis but I suggest using an SEO plugin for meta tags. If you don’t like Yoasts options there are lots of other SEO plugins.

Ben

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202489

I did some testing, seems there was an issue when running both a gallery and album on the same page. I updated the plugin and it’s pushed live now.

Ben

[Dave]

Dave

#202483

Thanks very much, Kevin. I think I get what you’re saying. Is there an easy way to change the 3 column shortcode to 4, or am I better off changing the size of the images? Right now, I’m using 300 sq px images and using code to reduce them to 175 sq. The front end is spaced badly now, but code is still displaying on the WP page editor for that page just as it was. Did you edit anything while you were in there (doesn’t look like it)?

Front end view

[mgsartor]

mgsartor

#202479

I am specifically looking to editadd the <meta name=”keywords” content=”……”> of my home page(s). I have done this with other themes. I believe without upgrading to SEO Pro plugin from Yoast SEO you are limited to the number of keywords you can use. There must be some way to add code to the <head></head> section???

[Anita]

Anita

#202470

Thank you Hannah, I’m testing shortpixel, it seems to work fine.

And do you know, why there are 16 requests by ‘font’ content type? Fonts are also 20% of the page size of the main page. I’ve tried ‘Auto-optimize’ plugin, here I’ve tested all settings regarding google font requets, but the 16 font requests not changing 🙁

These are the options for setting google font optimization:
-Leave as is
– Remove Google Fonts
– Combine and link in head (fonts load fast but are render-blocking)
– Combine and preload in head (fonts load late, but are not render-blocking)
– Combine and load fonts asynchronously with webfont.js

Can you suggest something regarding google font requets?

Thanks, Anita

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202465

I did some testing and it seems your Iframe code is causing you all the issues, likely sent you restoring the page which brought all the html back.

The main thing is that your domain widget iframe will break anything you place it in. I built a new page for you with the iframe in its own widget. Still won’t be able to edit it but at least you would be able to edit the rest of the content.

I suggest removing that iframe something about the way it’s loading is really harmful to WordPress.

Ben

[Ben Ritner]

Ben Ritner

#202462

Hey,
Just for clarity. The home page here at Kadence Themes is not using a slider. That is simply a background image in a row in page builder. But you can create a similar style using the home page settings and selecting page title like hannah pointed out. But you can also click “extra shortcodes” in the visual editor and add the typed text anywhere. Which is what we did in our row in pagebuilder.